tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post2121847272347503491..comments2024-03-27T00:26:19.644+00:00Comments on Rosa Rubicondior: Much Ado About NothingRosa Rubicondiorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-57819985446728618882015-03-23T18:38:23.822+00:002015-03-23T18:38:23.822+00:00I'm always impressed when someone who clearly ...I'm always impressed when someone who clearly knows nothing about abiogenesis/universe occurring/whatever posts the odds against it. <br />It's known as the 'Argumentum ad Biggus Numberus, or 'The Dickhead's Delight.' In short, it is pure undiluted stupidity.<br />In order to calculate the odds of abio, you would first need to know exactly what the first cell contained. NOT what a cell contains today, after 4 billion years of evo, but what THE FIRST CELL contained. Then you would need to work out every step that lead from non life to the first cell.<br />In short, this piece of stupidity is exactly the same as you estimating the distance from A>B when you haven't got a clue where either point is.<br />TBH, if I had that info I would be off to get my Nobel Prize.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16323248759080666362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-27629757601662982302013-09-05T18:41:02.514+01:002013-09-05T18:41:02.514+01:00No-thing = pure energy, historically, inflation wh...No-thing = pure energy, historically, inflation which could expand faster than the speed of light because there were no fields to slow it down yet. In short, it began to interact with itself, getting tangled into knots. it is this macramé we see today.Charles Brownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12047182807791940839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-31515884376158560942013-08-12T20:42:23.945+01:002013-08-12T20:42:23.945+01:00Excellent post. I've been looking for an analo...Excellent post. I've been looking for an analogy along the lines of the "north of north" one for a while. Thanks! Samizdathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07693131289194526051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-40933011165825039542013-08-12T19:03:04.691+01:002013-08-12T19:03:04.691+01:00Did Penrose manage to calculate the probability of...Did Penrose manage to calculate the probability of a magic man popping up from nothing and making the Universe out of nothing, please? Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-14426868374092114662013-08-12T18:56:36.803+01:002013-08-12T18:56:36.803+01:00Yes, you cannot have a vacuum fluctuation without ...Yes, you cannot have a vacuum fluctuation without a quantum field. A quantum field is not nothing and so the question arises "Where did the quantum field come from? Who created that?" <br /><br />Contrary to your article, there is no reason why there should be something rather than nothing. Of course, if there was nothing then we wouldn't be here. <br /><br />Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that the quantum field existed eternally. Scientists used to believe the universe was eternal (although that doesn't meet with the evidence because why are the stars still shining? If the universe had always existed, it would have burned all the fuel by now) so we can posit an eternally existing quantum field prior to the Big Bang. No evidence for it, of course, so not really science, so this is just for the sake of argument.<br /><br />What are the chances a vacuum fluctuation could create a universe? What are the chances it could create a universe like ours? Nature does not do low entropy. Roger Penrose did the calculations. He found the chances of a naturalistic big bang resulting in a low entropy universe like ours was one in 10 to the power 10 to the power 123. See http://bit.ly/13JFnLrRon Cramhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06489485815819841101noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-90623187001342466232012-02-27T03:46:24.862+00:002012-02-27T03:46:24.862+00:00"Anonymous" is pwned! Awesome."Anonymous" is pwned! Awesome.Mark Josephnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-22821052345188505102012-02-25T10:02:32.625+00:002012-02-25T10:02:32.625+00:00I take it you can explain why this should be so, o...I take it you can explain why this should be so, other than in terms of you own satisfaction? If not, perhaps you can explain how your need to be satisfied can dictate rules to the universe and beyond.Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-20741374832967178592012-02-25T04:21:02.490+00:002012-02-25T04:21:02.490+00:00It's still a fundamental problem - why there i...It's still a fundamental problem - why there is something rather than nothing - and your attempt to explain why it should not be so is unsatisfying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-15880169339466734412012-02-25T00:25:06.072+00:002012-02-25T00:25:06.072+00:00Yes. Theists' arguments amount to nothing:)Yes. Theists' arguments amount to nothing:)dawkinsassangehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09091326399732097256noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-4241000502974969762012-02-24T19:26:17.869+00:002012-02-24T19:26:17.869+00:00So a quantum vacuum must have 'existed' fi...So a quantum vacuum must have 'existed' first.Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-67709129647696292622012-02-24T17:10:31.580+00:002012-02-24T17:10:31.580+00:00My way of seeing it is, because our current unders...My way of seeing it is, because our current understanding of physics points towards a 'quantum vacuum' in which space and time did not exist, asking the question what caused, or where that vaccuum came from is absurd. Nothing could have been a cause for anything else outside of time, and nothing could have came out of anywhere outside of space. So not only the quantuum vacuum must have existed, the big bang must inevitably have happened, without a cause, because time and space started with it.Dave Natanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04908332750461758919noreply@blogger.com