tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post2406864042866240889..comments2024-03-16T23:22:45.187+00:00Comments on Rosa Rubicondior: How Do You Know Satan Didn't Write The Bible?Rosa Rubicondiorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comBlogger163125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-13212758347469289862022-12-28T17:49:02.425+00:002022-12-28T17:49:02.425+00:00Who created "God"?Who created "God"? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-84537265382876779382022-02-08T10:04:35.092+00:002022-02-08T10:04:35.092+00:00Even years later I still get a chuckle out of this...Even years later I still get a chuckle out of this... thanks.Nos482https://www.blogger.com/profile/02511387006351497870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-57922554230655991452020-09-24T08:48:02.113+01:002020-09-24T08:48:02.113+01:00How do you know?
In fact, as Qur'anic schola...How do you know? <br /><br />In fact, as Qur'anic scholars know, Muhammad never wrote a word of the Qur'an. It was written initially by Zayd ibn Thabit, then a second edition was compiled on the orders of the Third Imam by a committee headed by Zayd ibn Thabit and the first edition was destroyed.<br /><br />The question you need to be answering is, how do you know it wasn't Satan dictating the Qur'an and the Bible? How can you prove that if your knowledge of right and wrong comes from one or other of those books?<br />Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-46649281453421813292020-09-23T23:58:05.804+01:002020-09-23T23:58:05.804+01:00Standard, King James, SAB--they're all the sam...Standard, King James, SAB--they're all the same bible, just different translations. Also, the Koran was written by the Profit Mohammed, so pretty sure Satan didn't write that one. Unless you consider Mohammed to be Satan, which many do.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-47464077069260889332019-10-05T15:52:13.242+01:002019-10-05T15:52:13.242+01:00Regarding "the argument": Your first pre...Regarding "the argument": Your first premise is false. Logic came into being independently from the Bible. You would know this if you googled the history of logic.<br /><br />Regarding "the issue": Satan is portrayed as a much nicer person than God in the Bible. According to the Bible, Satan killed Job's servants, animals and children and later "smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown", only because God made a bet with Satan (Isn't that a bad thing in itself?) and ordered him to do it. Aside from that, the Bible doesn't say that Satan killed anyone. On the other hand, God personally killed millions of people and animals, even many who didn't deserve it, like the firstborn sons of Egypt (for punishing the pharaoh for not letting the Israelites go, which was the logical consequence of God hardening the pharaoh's heart beforehand instead of softening it), according to the Bible. The portrayal of God in the old testament inspired Richard Dawkins to say/write: "The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully." I don't know about you, but if I wrote books in which I am a central character, I'd portray myself as a very nice person and my antagonist as a very bad person.Stefanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10985283882699058143noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-27747401011194663212017-09-28T01:01:46.417+01:002017-09-28T01:01:46.417+01:00Get thou behind me! :-)Get thou behind me! :-)Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-10404749461539074782017-09-27T21:44:38.623+01:002017-09-27T21:44:38.623+01:00You should send me all your money, because I say i...You should send me all your money, because I say it's the right thing to do. You know it's right because I said so, and everything I say is the truth. You know I'm telling the truth, because I just told you I tell the truth. My logic is irrefutable by your own reasoning, so where's my check?Artorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04667520129712614295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-63654991356662915452016-09-15T14:55:37.743+01:002016-09-15T14:55:37.743+01:00You mean prophecies such as the town that would be...You mean prophecies such as the town that would be utterly destroyed, never to be rebuilt or remembered, still stands to this day?As prophecy goes, the bible has a lot of bad and ridiculous ones. Such as Jesus saying BRB lol, and then 2000+ years later is still very much missing from the picture.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03130750111295430356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-797965048953288222016-09-15T14:27:44.758+01:002016-09-15T14:27:44.758+01:00"Defined by what? Or who? Logic?"
Defin..."Defined by what? Or who? Logic?"<br /><br />Defined by mathematics. l+l=ll<br /> If ducks could potato, are squirrels bankers? <br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03130750111295430356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-55862778805275904442016-09-15T14:21:01.206+01:002016-09-15T14:21:01.206+01:00You`re not any good at this logic thing are you?You`re not any good at this logic thing are you?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03130750111295430356noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-72454175757660432372016-09-11T04:10:40.574+01:002016-09-11T04:10:40.574+01:00"The problem is that your very concept and id..."The problem is that your very concept and idea of Satan comes from the Bible, and thus forbidding us from appealing to the Bible to disprove the argument is clearly fallacious."<br /><br />So, Alex, you're clarifying that "Satan" is a character in a text in the same way that "Professor Snape" is a character in a different text?<br /><br />Hm. That's perplexing. See, Christians claim that Satan is REAL and active in the world the way any real being would be (like their "God"). But it sounds like YOU're saying that "Satan" is just an idea that's basically trapped between the covers of the Bible. Couldn't we all say the same thing about "God"??Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03663882184147701877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-39268310735609389622016-09-11T04:07:37.422+01:002016-09-11T04:07:37.422+01:00"He answers prayers"
No, He doesn't..."He answers prayers"<br /><br />No, He doesn't. I have prayed for a grilled cheese sandwich to appear in my outstretched hand. I have asked Christians and Mormons to pray for a grilled cheese sandwich to appear in my outstretched hand, but this prayer has never been answered. John 14:12-14 quotes none other than JESUS stating that he will not only do WHATEVER the believer asks, but that believers will be able to do all his little magic tricks - and more! To this day, no Christian OR Mormon has managed to walk on water, and no Christian OR Mormon has fed the city of Detroit on a single chicken pot pie. Since you're so plugged into the Holy Spirit, symphonyofdissent, perhaps you can pray that all the amputees returning from the battlefields of Iraq and Afghanistan will immediately see their amputated limbs grow back to original appearance and functionality. Surely YOU could do this, since you're so important and sweet and devinely insightful and all the rest.<br /><br />GO.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03663882184147701877noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-76475131115730872522016-04-04T04:13:55.472+01:002016-04-04T04:13:55.472+01:00Jon, God did not say anything to Eve - the instruc...Jon, God did not say anything to Eve - the instructions about not eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil were given to Adam before Eve had been created. So if Eve got a messed up version of the message, that's because God entrusted that all-important message to an incompetent. Which you would expect an all-knowledgeable being to be aware of, right? The original message had nothing about "touching it" in it, you'll notice. And, yeah - serpent etc. - WTF?? This story just makes God look like an incompetent.<br /><br />And furthermore, it is only AFTER God has cursed Adam and Eve that God apparently realizes that It left yet another all-important asset right there within easy reach - the Tree of Eternal Life! Upon realizing Its second huge mistake, God then concludes with banishing Adam and Eve from the Garden of Eden, lest they scamper right over, eat from that second Tree, and "become as gods themselves." In this tale (and reiterated in the Tower of Babel tale), God is afraid of competition from Its own creation. *snort* Some "god"...<br /><br />The Garden of Eden tale of Genesis 2 is the most odious and obnoxious entrapment - the equivalent of a parent putting a delicious-looking piece of poisoned chocolate cake within view and reach of a toddler and saying, "Don't touch." Would we call that person a loving parent??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-85039952055660766712016-04-04T04:05:53.966+01:002016-04-04T04:05:53.966+01:00Along these lines, if there were a religion whose ...Along these lines, if there were a religion whose sacred texts were full of the most horrific tales of murder and rapine, barbarity and oppression, but everyone who was devoted to that religion was of the most exemplary character and noble and self-effacing and kindly and charitable and generous and patient, then I'd have to say that's a good religion, despite the content of its scriptures.<br /><br />Christianity doesn't come anywhere close to putting me in that quandary, I'll note.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-35882530979514929962016-01-06T23:35:40.809+00:002016-01-06T23:35:40.809+00:00I see I still didn't really answer the questio...I see I still didn't really answer the question, so I'll just ask those who follow god this: what god do you think you're actually worshipping who only is able to forgive people (who are unable to morally uphold immoral laws) after having his completely innocent son whipped to shreds and nailed to a cross? And let me guess, he promises you eternal life to worship him and you FALL FOR THAT? I wish to perish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-30470755330525651152016-01-03T04:02:46.781+00:002016-01-03T04:02:46.781+00:00I must correct myself, God the Father and the Devi...I must correct myself, God the Father and the Devil are one and the same. Satan is the same character as Jehovah and is divided against himself. Both the angel of God and God are Satan. Also Jehovah is the antichrist and Jesus is only the son of God who is Satan. And it is all written in the bible. Which doesn't make it true as such but it's there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-49900437666846576652016-01-02T00:14:43.844+00:002016-01-02T00:14:43.844+00:00Ok, let me answer it even though the way of questi...Ok, let me answer it even though the way of questioning is confusing to say the least. Men wrote the Bible but Satan is the god the Bible speaks of. So in a way Satan wrote the Bible by influencing men. Those who follow the god of the Bible are deceived and worship Satan. The true creator is indifferent and doesn't need worship which would make him dependent. Satan is real and yes, he's the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-71435616374643079002015-12-27T09:17:55.040+00:002015-12-27T09:17:55.040+00:00Understandably anonymous.
What an amusingly ine...Understandably anonymous. <br /><br />What an amusingly inept way to avoid answering the question. Have you ever wondered why you need to avoid the question?Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-10356104828967087712015-12-27T03:59:17.773+00:002015-12-27T03:59:17.773+00:00The question "How do you know Satan didn'...The question "How do you know Satan didn't write the Bible?" is just a confirmation of that fact stated in your question in which you ask how one can know this. How do you know Satan didn't write the Bible? Because you just told me. Ask a better question next time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-90874150183382254282015-01-07T09:26:50.505+00:002015-01-07T09:26:50.505+00:00So how do you know Satan didn't write the Bibl...So how do you know Satan didn't write the Bible?<br /><br />Trying to shift the burden of proof onto me shows you are aware of your difficulty in this matter and demonstrates your moral cowardice and intellectual dishonesty, since YOU claim your god wrote the Bible, not me, and I make no claim that Satan did, merely pointing out that YOU can't prove he didn't. <br /><br />Nice avoidance strategy though. <br /><br />I particularly liked the way you ended with a condescendingly sanctimonious passive aggressive threat to make yourself feel smugly superior at my expense and so feel better about yourself. Non-consensual prayer has the same motive as non-consensual sex, of course - gratuitous power without responsibility.<br /><br />Where do you get your morals from again? Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-6776578201377225992015-01-07T04:08:02.259+00:002015-01-07T04:08:02.259+00:00I would like to return to Matt's original disa...I would like to return to Matt's original disagreement with the argument, although I must say that this debate has been thouroughly entertaining and thought provoking, so kudos for constructing such a caustic thought experiment.<br /><br />You are asking us to prove that Satan did not write the Bible, without appealing to the Bible itself. The problem is that your very concept and idea of Satan comes from the Bible, and thus forbidding us from appealing to the Bible to disprove the argument is clearly fallacious. Everything you and I know about Satan comes from the Bible, so if you can draw from the Bible to construct this argument, why can't we draw from the Bible to refute it?<br /><br />Second, the burden of proof lies with you. You would have to prove somehow that A) Satan exists using evidence independent from the Bible (per your requirements) and B) it is possible for this Satan to have written the Bible (assuming that a Satan independent from the Bible exists). <br /><br />Finally, the Bible describes Satan as "the Father of Lies" and "the Great Deceiver". Why would Satan describe himself in such a way as to cast doubt on the veracity of his own statements? When Satan supposedly described himself as "the Great Deceiver", was he lying, or telling the truth? If he was lying, we have no reason to accept anything he or his Bible is saying. If he's telling the truth, we have no reason to accept what he says. Also, why would Satan impose rules and commandments instructing people to worship and ally with his sworn enemy? It seems preposterous for Satan to write such things that are so self-defeating and contradictory if he is trying to amass power for himself through the Bible.<br /><br />I send my love your way and will keep you in my thoughts and prayers! God bless!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17955862502608496527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-55747116896346694582015-01-06T00:27:25.657+00:002015-01-06T00:27:25.657+00:00Ding Ding Ding!
We ALWAYS fail to reject the Null...Ding Ding Ding!<br /><br />We ALWAYS fail to reject the Null Hypothesis UNTIL we have sufficient data to reject it. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357485242929324851noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-52435393844448617172015-01-05T09:18:15.856+00:002015-01-05T09:18:15.856+00:00So basically, you're saying Satan couldn't...So basically, you're saying Satan couldn't have written the Bible because you don't believe he did. Your superiority makes you immune from being fooled. You just 'know'.<br /><br />I don't suppose you could deign to tell us mere mortals HOW you just know this, please, other than just being superior to normal people? What, for example, if Satan had told you all that stuff you claim to 'just know' about your god in order to fool you?<br /><br />How can you prove he didn't, as opposed to simply asserting that you're too good for that, please?<br /><br />Has it ever occurred to you that quoting from a book written by a convicted fraudster and confidence trickster who then used it to trick people out of their farms, as though it were a book of unquestionable truths, undermines your implicit claim to not be able to be fooled?<br /><br />How do you know Satan didn't inspire the convicted criminal and liar, Joseph Smith to forge the Book of Mormon, to fool you, please? Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-81531401994570837312015-01-05T01:41:56.282+00:002015-01-05T01:41:56.282+00:00As a Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) I believe that I ca...As a Latter-Day Saint (Mormon) I believe that I can know the truth of the scriptures and divine teaching first and foremost through personal experience through prayer and experimenting on the word. <br /><br />God loves us and wants to communicate with us and confirm to us the truth of his teachings. He answers prayers and gives personal revelation. I know that the Bible and the Book of Mormon are the word of God because I have prayed to God and received a confirmatory witness of the Holy Spirit. Once one receives such a witness, you simply know that it is from God and not a deception. You feel the light and joy that flows when one receives divine insight. <br /><br />I also know these things are true because I have experimented by planting the seed of faith in my heart (See Alma Chapter 32 in the Book of Mormon). I have tried the principles that are taught and found them to be sweet. I have seen as good fruit grows within me as I embrace the divine teachings contained in the Bible and the Book of Mormon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-27395124301665782242015-01-03T15:12:08.565+00:002015-01-03T15:12:08.565+00:00You're really full of yourself, aren't you...You're really full of yourself, aren't you?doug haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17514703467103407932noreply@blogger.com