tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post525037259046914815..comments2024-03-27T00:26:19.644+00:00Comments on Rosa Rubicondior: The Doublethink of the God DelusionRosa Rubicondiorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-38096292347989377822013-09-12T20:26:37.677+01:002013-09-12T20:26:37.677+01:00This was one of the first points that made me star...This was one of the first points that made me start doubting. I remember when I was a kid and learning about space, I wondered why the astronauts never saw heaven on the way up. I was also into dinosaurs and prehistoric animals and my doubt was sealed when I mentioned cavemen in conversation with my deeply religious grandmother and she said 'if they ever existed'. There was my doubt sealed. I figured out at that young age that religion, even the idea of god itself, was just a way of answering questions people didn't have the resources to answer at the time the bible was written. Great blog, actually made me giggle in places! Keep up the good work :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-56251129039546772422012-11-11T05:46:15.588+00:002012-11-11T05:46:15.588+00:00"to make it easy for people to be satisfied w..."to make it easy for people to be satisfied with ignorance and derive comfort from not having to bother with learning."<br /><br />What shall we do about the recent studies which show that the majority of people like to not think and find thinking unpleasant and painful? If only a minority of people actually like thinking and learning, this creates complex social problems.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-75115456531027184822012-11-11T05:34:44.215+00:002012-11-11T05:34:44.215+00:00Back before psychologists showed us that humans we...Back before psychologists showed us that humans were irrational most of the time (_Thinking Fast and Slow_ is just one of the books on the topic), it may have seemed to make sense as a rational argument to say "Well, we humans think it, therefore it should be given the benefit of the doubt and is probably rational".<br /><br />Now that we know that humans are irrational most of the time, such an argument is irrational. Though very human. :-)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-55634241235836626852011-07-21T20:35:48.776+01:002011-07-21T20:35:48.776+01:00An excellent post, I'm sorry I only read it no...An excellent post, I'm sorry I only read it now. Your writing is excellent.<br /><br />One thing a lot of people, 'theologians' especially neglect is that even if their god existed, was irrational and immaterial and beyond the ability of science to detect, this god would still cause effects in the real world and those effects would necessarily be measurable. If it wasn't, we wouldn't know of it's existence and several billion people claim to be aware of the existence of some deity implying a perceivable and therefore measurable effect on reality.<br /><br />If this irrational, immaterial, undetectable god also had undetectable or non existent effects in the world... a) we wouldn't know about it and b) who gives a crap, it doesn't do anything.<br /><br />The religious are full of shit.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-77811801764312595232010-10-17T19:59:36.665+01:002010-10-17T19:59:36.665+01:00"It all comes down to whether or not we belie...<i>"It all comes down to whether or not we believe science can answer all the questions of life, including the very difficult ones, doesn't it."</i><br /><br />No, it doesn't. Science may, or may not, answer all the questions eventually. If it can, it may well be that we don't understand the answers. But irrespective of whether, one day, science is able to provide us with the explanations as to origins of life, the universe, the multiverse, the only "lazy option" as described by TweetMinistries, would be to drop a god into whatever rapidly shrinking gap in understanding remains. Saying "I don't know" is neither safe nor lazy - it is the only intellectually honest position to take in the absence of so much as a hint of viable evidence in support of supernatural theories.<br /><br />@atheocrat (Twitter)Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13914302254447035558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-7526205797805916232010-09-05T12:32:07.743+01:002010-09-05T12:32:07.743+01:00Yep! The little god of the gaps keeps getting evi...Yep! The little god of the gaps keeps getting evicted from more an more gaps as science advances. The poor little thing has only been inserted there in the first place to make it easy for people to be satified with ignorance and derive comfort from not having to bother with learning.Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-42796389087938979312010-09-05T12:21:21.354+01:002010-09-05T12:21:21.354+01:00Kuhn keeps coming up more and more. It even seems ...Kuhn keeps coming up more and more. It even seems that the more science is able to explain, the more Kuhn is used in these kinds of debates. The problem is that Kuhn is an incorrect position:<br /><br />- science is indeed not able to answer all questions, we do not (yet) have the technology and not everything has been examined. We are well on our way, but we are not there yet.<br /><br />- science does not lie about not being to answer these questions yet. The answer at the moment is: working on it, but at the moment, we simply do not know yet. Or: there are a few theories that require further investigation, we hope to be able to have a correct answer in future. <br /><br />- science does not say: here is the answer, when an answer is not conclusive.<br /><br />- now let's look at the 'competition'. God is the answer, says religion. There is no proof, there is no evidence. When asked for evidence, religion says that the answer can not be proven.<br /><br />- when science finds an answer that was previously answered by Goddidit (religion), god-of-the-gaps has a smaller gap to live in.<br /><br />- this process has been going on for many many centuries. However, it is hardly ever addressed by religion. It took the Vatican until 1980 to confirm the world is not flat. <br /><br />- we should be familiar with this process by now. In my opinion science has proved itself useful enough on questions people felt it could not answer, to not be dismissed straightaway.The Atheist Cloggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08500838677718355432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-6685623640196882972010-08-21T19:01:01.219+01:002010-08-21T19:01:01.219+01:00God is complex and not at the same time. sounds l...God is complex and not at the same time. sounds like he is a Taoist. "R" epic post. Thanks so much.<br /><br />KrissAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01446845644368676537noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-83772822065630486402010-08-20T19:05:36.882+01:002010-08-20T19:05:36.882+01:00>God has presented Himself in the Bible and in ...>God has presented Himself in the Bible and in the person of Jesus for dissection and analysis. <<br /><br />That, of course, is an assertion for which you are unable to provide any supporting evidence.<br /><br />Were you to do so, and that evidence could not reasonably be doubted, I would be amongst the first to accept it.<br /><br />I do not believe my opinions or my desires trump evidence. I believe this is the intellectually honest approach and I find it hard to believe that any sentient creator of the universe, and especially one who created my brain, would want me to be otherwise.Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-4068891528520139732010-08-20T18:30:24.095+01:002010-08-20T18:30:24.095+01:00It all comes down to whether or not we believe sci...It all comes down to whether or not we believe science can answer all the questions of life, including the very difficult ones, doesn't it.<br /><br />There are no clear answers to this conundrum. If you believe "Yes" then there is little reason to ask anything beyond the logical follower question "When?" And that is not an easy answer to anticipate both in terms of timing and content!<br /><br />If you believe "No" then there are real and pertinent questions that need to be explored for any self satisfaction.<br /><br />A "Don't know" or "Don't care" answer is a lazy option, but perhaps the safest to avoid argument!<br /><br />Yet again...it's a matter of choice. God has presented Himself in the Bible and in the person of Jesus for dissection and analysis. The decision is ours.TweetMinistrieshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09337476554737342399noreply@blogger.com