tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post1427611515141312547..comments2024-03-29T11:20:48.180+00:00Comments on Rosa Rubicondior: Faking It At LourdesRosa Rubicondiorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-75078172722958355462023-12-06T22:09:18.150+00:002023-12-06T22:09:18.150+00:00I know I'm very late to the party, but I wante...I know I'm very late to the party, but I wanted to comment on the linguistics involved here. I always love hearing Occitan mentioned in a post! My family comes from that region (though further south) and I've studied the language a little. <br /><br />The differences in spelling are partly because Occitan has no set orthography. There is a de facto standard, the classical, based on how it was written back in the late Middle Ages (IIRC), which is where the Sobirós spelling comes from. Soubirous would be how it's spelled in French, or in the Mistralian orthography, which is based on French spelling. Mistralian spelling used to be popular in Gascony, but it's fallen off in favor of the classical.<br /><br />"Que soi era immaculada concepcion" is the spelling in classical orthography, while in the Mistralian it's spelled "Que soy era immaculada councepciou" -- which is visible at the statue at Lourdes itself (and which you can see on the Wikipedia page for Lourdes).LeonBaradathttp://peyre.42web.io/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-85807603904176204022023-01-01T22:47:12.555+00:002023-01-01T22:47:12.555+00:00Religion as a threat to democracy worldwide.
Only...Religion as a threat to democracy worldwide. <br />Only in religion do the inmates pity the escapees.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-25410736066643874442022-04-26T02:49:14.544+01:002022-04-26T02:49:14.544+01:00In other words, you have no evidence. Thanks for s...In other words, you have no evidence. Thanks for showing off your profound ignorance.Johnnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09305126583495286624noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-49806022574707719792022-01-26T08:44:37.036+00:002022-01-26T08:44:37.036+00:00I'm not aware of any cursing or insults, but i...I'm not aware of any cursing or insults, but if the truth mocks someone's religion, then that is a matter for them. Would you prefer lies and disinformation?<br />Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-39478569284354710862021-12-15T21:18:40.538+00:002021-12-15T21:18:40.538+00:00I do not believe in this, but I feel it is wrong t...I do not believe in this, but I feel it is wrong to insult and curse an innocent girl, and to mock anyone's religion.Bibianahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00852953724990588694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-34457477867824853952021-07-31T09:01:38.788+01:002021-07-31T09:01:38.788+01:00The whole thing is the imagination of a silly girl...The whole thing is the imagination of a silly girl used by the Catholic church to raise money from gullible desperadoes people. Let us all move on and if you wish to pray to your God do it in private at home, <br />graycaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13932227601071741785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-54914198075154283192021-06-19T06:05:39.299+01:002021-06-19T06:05:39.299+01:00How many were cured of whatever ailment they went ...How many were cured of whatever ailment they went there to be cured of?Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-2810404195180115472021-06-17T14:03:15.367+01:002021-06-17T14:03:15.367+01:00Everyone I know who has been to Lourdes has descri...Everyone I know who has been to Lourdes has described it in positive terms.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13741564156815867332noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-28840840479604302172021-06-05T14:51:30.705+01:002021-06-05T14:51:30.705+01:00For those who believe in god, anything is possible...For those who believe in god, anything is possible, because they will believe any nonsense dressed up as a miracle. How do you believe that being gullible is a virtueÇ That is the question.Dormanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17165694805041935930noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-59987601879680620042021-02-14T14:57:15.265+00:002021-02-14T14:57:15.265+00:00Had you read the article you would have seen how t...Had you read the article you would have seen how there is a very sufficient explanation for both those who believe in magic and those who don't. Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-79815975140572890422021-02-14T14:39:34.600+00:002021-02-14T14:39:34.600+00:00For those who believe in God, no explanation is ne...For those who believe in God, no explanation is necessary. For those who do not believe in God, no explanation will suffice. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05106236823330963692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-42306127576899456772020-07-06T02:45:51.392+01:002020-07-06T02:45:51.392+01:00I agree with you people are wasting their time and...I agree with you people are wasting their time and money. How sad!graycaphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13932227601071741785noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-80025961479726712592020-07-04T18:34:21.500+01:002020-07-04T18:34:21.500+01:00Actually, just because we don't understand som...Actually, just because we don't understand something doesn't mean it's a miracle. There have been also unexplainable deaths, are they also miracles? Is god killing people too at the same ratio as he is apparently healing them?Pere Ubunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-11776952376416872922020-04-22T15:21:06.448+01:002020-04-22T15:21:06.448+01:00Can you please try to resist repetitively spamming...Can you please try to resist repetitively spamming this blogpost with the same gibberish?Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-70626365875538036352020-04-22T15:19:41.018+01:002020-04-22T15:19:41.018+01:00Great! Then order some by mail order. Any idea w...Great! Then order some by mail order. Any idea why they are quoting €100 a time?<br />Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-58513434891133737022020-04-17T15:08:36.263+01:002020-04-17T15:08:36.263+01:00Why do you assume only angry people tell the truth...Why do you assume only angry people tell the truth? Not sure of the relevance of the rest of your comment. Did you know what you were going to type when you started typing?Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-61573706176803969282020-04-17T10:27:44.468+01:002020-04-17T10:27:44.468+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07833174184797878712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-62519956143202006052020-04-17T10:27:43.751+01:002020-04-17T10:27:43.751+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07833174184797878712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-5939674765651391892020-04-17T10:27:42.430+01:002020-04-17T10:27:42.430+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07833174184797878712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-37776686259549479602020-04-17T10:27:40.165+01:002020-04-17T10:27:40.165+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07833174184797878712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-53236271224755721652020-04-17T10:27:37.734+01:002020-04-17T10:27:37.734+01:00The water is free and maybe you should read the me...The water is free and maybe you should read the medical records that are all available. Just because we don’t understand something doesn’t mean it’s not true. Many leading scientists thought for many years the earth was flat and that our planet was the Center of the universe. Why are you so angry? Willishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07833174184797878712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-90324657678300122032020-02-03T22:58:51.074+00:002020-02-03T22:58:51.074+00:00A couple of details: As you can see in the images...A couple of details: As you can see in the images below, after death Ol' Bern apparently got a nose job:<br /><br />https://i.imgur.com/uIhZV0h.png - what a BEAK!<br /><br />Now: https://i.imgur.com/9q1N54r.png - as you can see, the artist *straightened out* her nose, so not only does she now look far more *attractive* than she did when she was alive, she looks *nothing LIKE* what she looked like when she was alive!<br /><br />Also, surprisingly little is known about what happens to bodies after they are interred. Because - wait for it - so very few are *dug up again* just to see! So we're at a loss to identify *when* a given corpsical outcome is out of the ordinary. THAT SAID, Ol' Bern appears to have been *deliberately* mummified - the circumstances of her burial were beyond odd:<br /><br />1) Notice that the internment was in a *vault*, not in the damp *ground*.<br /><br />>Once the stone had been lifted from the vault the coffin was immediately visible.<br /><br />2) Bern was buried in a *sealed lead coffin* INSIDE a wooden coffin:<br /><br />>The wooden coffin was unscrewed and the lead coffin cut open <br /><br />>The nuns washed the body and replaced it in a new coffin lined with zinc and padded with white silk. In the few hours in which it had been exposed to the air the body had started turning black. The double coffin was closed, soldered, screwed down and sealed with seven seals.<br /><br />Is it *normal* for an interior *metal* coffin to be *welded shut*?<br /> <br />3) Is it *normal* and *typical* to stuff the coffin full of *carbon*?<br /><br />>The lower parts of the body had turned slightly black. This seems to have been the result of the carbon of which quite large quantities were found in the coffin.<br /><br />Why "carbon"? What was the purpose? The lead, the zinc, *and* the carbon have antibacterial properties. In addition, before the metal coffin was welded shut, a small piece of paper or section of cotton wicking could have been lit and set inside to smoulder on top of all that carbon (or just a few live coals instead), to consume all the oxygen after the metal casket was welded airtight. THAT would certainly have forestalled decomposition! Once the oxygen was used up, the coal would have gone out.<br /><br />For more reading:<br /><br />https://web.archive.org/web/20100819100732/http://www.miraclesceptic.com/incorruptibility.html#_ST_BERNADETTE_OF_LOURDES<br /><br />https://web.archive.org/web/20100418021432/http://www.overcomeproblems.com/bernadette_exam.htm - it is clear that, at exhumation, Bern bore *no resemblance* to the artist's reconstruction in the form of the lifelike wax masks over face and hands that we see today.Doris Fromagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07804899422584862557noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-39184841982218019942019-11-10T12:18:29.364+00:002019-11-10T12:18:29.364+00:00It was in reference to your comment about how wate...It was in reference to your comment about how water can be bought for €100. At Lourdes itself, the water is available for free. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-51406911322258286012019-09-14T09:28:25.760+01:002019-09-14T09:28:25.760+01:00Is this comment relevant in some way?Is this comment relevant in some way?Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-21405032215132586222019-09-14T06:47:35.602+01:002019-09-14T06:47:35.602+01:00Lourdes water is totally free from the taps near t...Lourdes water is totally free from the taps near the springAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16358629744881692094noreply@blogger.com