tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post4161328627156075069..comments2024-03-29T11:20:48.180+00:00Comments on Rosa Rubicondior: Favourite Fallacies - Pascal's BlunderRosa Rubicondiorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-81965437930375081282012-12-25T09:42:12.284+00:002012-12-25T09:42:12.284+00:00The entire wager is predicated on possible outcome...The entire wager is predicated on possible outcome where belief in (the Christian) god is assumed to result in ever-lasting life in Heaven. The basic a priori assumption therefore is that such a god and Heaven both exist. <br /><br />If you think not, try the wager with each of the following assumptions in turn:<br /><br />1. There are no gods.<br />2. Only Hell and Satan exist.<br />3. Thousands of different gods, all offering different rewards/punishments for belief/non-belief, exist.<br />4. Only Zeus exists and he will punish people who don't believe in him.<br /><br />Remove the basic cultural assumption that there would only be one god and that god would be the Christian one with either Heaven or Hell awaiting us, and Pascal's Wager makes no sense whatsoever.<br /><br /><br /><br />Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-2270992573277781912012-12-25T07:39:17.574+00:002012-12-25T07:39:17.574+00:00Nice article. It all makes sense except for the &...Nice article. It all makes sense except for the "a priori" parts. The wager does not assume that there's a god/afterlife/heaven. It starts by saying "Either there is, or there isn't." Any subset insufficient to win you eternal happiness counts as "There isn't". Now you must bet on "there is" vs. "there isn't", without knowing the true answer.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08225136902225890273noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-26796304003006167922012-06-10T12:48:15.082+01:002012-06-10T12:48:15.082+01:00Anonymous
I want "immortality" from nan...Anonymous<br /><br />I want "immortality" from nanotechnology, and it is really irritating that billions of minds controlling trillions of dollars which could be applied to that technology, are fooled into believing they will live forever even if they apply their resources to irrelevant aims.Therm0manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13004314383499555498noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-32632616857515882702011-11-28T08:21:27.943+00:002011-11-28T08:21:27.943+00:00Anonymous.
See if you can think of any benefits t...Anonymous.<br /><br />See if you can think of any benefits to a priest or a religious apologist of tricking someone else into agreeing with them. If not, you'll probably find it hard to see what might be motivating a con artist or snake-oil salesman.Rosa Rubicondiorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06063268216781988588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7583674511519808833.post-5611653160127809262011-11-28T04:43:31.375+00:002011-11-28T04:43:31.375+00:00"Pascal's Wager is an attempt to fool an ..."Pascal's Wager is an attempt to fool an omniscient God".<br /><br />Agreed. The wager does not make anyone have faith, which is a requirement.<br /><br />"Or is it an attempt to fool a gullible people by those who know they're pushing a lie?"<br /><br />1) You would have to indicate the benefit for the lie being pushed. <br /><br />a)If it is for control, indicate the control you currently have and how this control is ensured by yourself.<br /><br />b)If it is power, indicate the power you currently have and how this power is ensured by yourself.<br /><br />c)If it is enslavement, indicate how you are actually free and how this freedom is ensured by yourself.<br /><br />2)You would then have to describe how your "belief" in you having any control or power or freedom is not a delusion in itself. <br /><br />3) After describing this, indicate the end result or benefit, if any, in obtaining this if death itself is what awaits you and nothing more. <br /><br />Or do your hopes lay in giving your future descendants a chance to further "evolve" to a species not yet imagined so you can be part of a future evolutionary line chart showing your evolution from primates to humans to (insert here)? <br /><br />Or do your hopes lay in the possibility of science discovering a way to alter genetics and isolating "aging" in the hopes to gain immortality?<br /><br />Please explain, and no avoidance or psychological excuses as to how these questions further what you think your "cause" is, or how the belief of your supposed intelligence is above answering, or how I missed the point and didn't read the text. Just answer. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com