The important thing to understand is that it gives the Pope fantastic magical powers. Because he is infallible whatever he says becomes fact, automatically. Because he is the only person to have these powers, obviously he is the ultimate source of all truth because he literally creates it at will.
That's if you believe the official dogma.
Papal infallibility is a dogma of the Catholic Church which states that, in virtue of the promise of Jesus to Peter, the Pope is preserved from the possibility of error "when, in the exercise of his office as shepherd and teacher of all Christians, in virtue of his supreme apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine concerning faith or morals to be held by the whole Church"So there we are. The Catholic Church has 'proved', within the Catholic Church's definition of proof, that the Pope is infallible, merely by defining the Pope as infallible, therefore the Pope is infallible. QED.
Infallibility - In general, exemption or immunity from liability to error or failure; in particular in theological usage, the supernatural prerogative by which the Church of Christ is, by a special Divine assistance, preserved from liability to error in her definitive dogmatic teaching regarding matters of faith and morals.
The teaching of the Vatican Council is to be found in Session III, cap. 4, where it is declared that "the doctrine of faith, which God has revealed, has not been proposed as a philosophical discovery to be improved upon by human talent, but has been committed as a Divine deposit to the spouse of Christ, to be faithfully guarded and infallibly interpreted by her"; and in Session IV, cap. 4, where it is defined that the Roman pontiff when he teaches ex cathedra "enjoys, by reason of the Divine assistance promised to him in blessed Peter, that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer wished His Church to be endowed in defining doctrine regarding faith and morals".
Let there be facts!
So what has this meant for the world?
Earth as it used to be |
Curiously though, there doesn't seem to be a record of this momentous occasion. We just know that in the early Middle ages leading theologians like Diodorus of Tarsus, Severian, Bishop of Gabala and Cosmas Indicopleustes were proclaiming that earth was flat but by the late Middle Ages those such as Thomas Aquinas were proclaiming it to be spherical and none of them were declared heretical, so we are safe to assume that the infallible Pope changed his mind. Maybe he just announced the change in earth's fundamental shape to a few friends.
The Universe before 1820 |
We can date this event a little better than earth's change from flat to spherical. It happened in 1820 when "...the Congregation of the Holy Office, with the pope's approval, decreed that Catholic astronomer, Joseph Settele was allowed to treat the earth's motion as an established fact." (Wikipedia - Geocentric model) and so repudiated the infallible papal decrees listed in The Pontifical Decrees Against the Doctrine of The Earth’s Movement and the Ultramontane Defence of Them. It's a shame the actual time and date in 1820 that the Pope gave his infallible approval for this decree isn't recorded, because that would have been the time it all changed. We could have a special 'Galileo Day' to celebrate it.
Barnacle Goose, Branta leucopsis Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No. It's a fish... er... duck (official!) |
This all changed when Pope Innocent III declared at the Fourth Lateran Council of 1215 that Catholics were explicitly prohibited from eating Barnacle Geese during Lent because, despite their unusual reproduction (sic), they lived and fed like ducks and so were of the same nature as other birds.
So, at that point Barnacle Geese ceased being fish and became er... ducks. However, they continued to reproduce by growing in barnacles and not by laying eggs like other birds. This of course is still the case, because the infallible papal declaration of the Fourth Lateran Council of 1215 is still in force. People who believe that Barnacle Geese reproduce by flying to breeding grounds of which Medieval Catholic bishops were unaware and where they mate and lay eggs like other geese, should cease in that erroneous belief forthwith. It will remain an error until the Pope announces otherwise and has been an error since well before 1215.
Pope Pius XII, Euphoria |
It would seem that present-day science, with one sweep back across the centuries, has succeeded in bearing witness to the august instant of the primordial Fiat Lux [Let there be Light], when along with matter, there burst forth from nothing a sea of light and radiation, and the elements split and churned and formed into millions of galaxies. Thus, with that concreteness which is characteristic of physical proofs, [science] has confirmed the contingency of the universe and also the well-founded deduction as to the epoch when the world came forth from the hands of the Creator. Hence Creation took place. We say: "Therefore, there is a Creator. Therefore God exists!"Following some discrete advice from Lemaïtre that tying the proof of God to a falsifiable scientific theory might not be the wisest piece of divine guidance he had received, in fact it was more a Papal Blunder than Papal Bull, Pope Pius XII decided to say no more on the matter, but the damage was done.
Pope Pius XII, 1951
At that very moment of course, according to the dogma of papal infallibility, the universe had ceased being a few thousand years old and the product of a six-day special creation and had instantly become several billion years old and the product of a slow, scientifically rational process - and the whole of Genesis had been rendered false, probably mythical or at best merely allegorical. And with that, of course, Pius XII inadvertently abolished original sin, the need for God's forgiveness, and any meaning to Jesus' supposed sacrifice or indeed any purpose to his alleged existence. Oops!
Such is the danger of having the power to create reality by fiat but lacking the wisdom or understanding to apply it judiciously.
The same Pope Pius XII had earlier announced in 1950 that the way life on earth had been created was now, in all important respects, the way Darwin and Wallace had described it in 1859. Previously it had been created the way the Bible described it with all species being created exactly as they are to day by God.
Prior to that announcement, all the evidence supporting Darwin and Wallace, like geology, fossils, anatomy, physiology, etc., had either been put there by Satan to mislead and confuse mankind, or by God to test our faith. Immediately the Pope made his announcement however it all became proof of God's wondrous powers and wisdom in thinking up the process of evolution, setting it in motion and guiding it to produce mankind.
Curiously though, with the age of the universe not being changed from a few thousand years to many billions until 1951, for about a year we had a situation whereby the earth was not old enough for the slow evolutionary process, which was now a fact, to have taken place.
Luckily, another useful Catholic doctrine - that anything God has done which seems illogical, ridiculous, contradictory, or the act of a deranged madman or incompetent fool, is merely a mystery beyond our comprehension and thus proof of God's infinite wisdom - came into play to save the day. Phew!
One change which happened very recently seems to be important for Catholics but appears to have made no difference at all to the rest of the world. This was the abolition of 'limbo' by the Pope on April 7, 2007.
Until that date, because God couldn't stand the sight of the 'souls' of the disgusting little sinners, babies who died before they could be baptised went to a place called 'limbo' rather than Hell, because, although God was repulsed by them, they hadn't done anything wrong other than being born before they could 'accept Jesus as their saviour', so eternal pain and suffering seemed a bit harsh even for the god who had thought up the idea of sin, Hell and eternal pain and suffering in the first place.
So Pope Benedict exercised his infallible powers to change reality and henceforth God will tolerate them, despite their repulsive sinfulness, and 'limbo' has been abolished. It is not clear whether all the babies who were in limbo at the time simply ceased to exist as well or whether Heaven was swamped by a sudden deluge of the many centuries worth of accumulated baby 'souls' arriving instantaneously.
Pope Benedict was quick to point out that babies should still be baptised as quickly as possible though. This obviously had nothing to do with the need to pin a label on them so they could be counted as Catholics and so keep the membership numbers artificially inflated. It was clearly an ecumenical matter based on sound theology and a personal communication from God to Pope Benedict.
Source: Wikinews - Vatican abolishes Limbo.
Another recent change in reality announced by Pope Benedict on 17 March 2009 was the change in the cause of AIDS. This used to be caused only by the Human immunodeficiency virus (HIV) which can be transmitted during sexual intercourse, the risk of which could be reduced to a very low level by use of condoms. Now however, following a change introduced by the Pope, AIDS is also caused by using a condom.
This again is based on sound theology and a personal communication from God to Pope Benedict and has nothing to do with concern that using condoms routinely as a contraceptive might reduce the number of babies Catholics are producing to be counted in the world-wide Catholic numbers, and would also reduce abject poverty, suffering and hopelessness, the escape from which is sold as a reason to allow the Catholic Church control of your day-to-day lives and so keep the money coming in.
I hope this article has been some help in explaining the idea of papal infallibility and how the Pope can use it to change reality to suit the needs of the
So there we are. Papal infallibility is not at all hard to understand. We just need to suspend disbelief, abandon rational thinking and believe what we are told to believe. Then we just need to obey all the rules and not ask so many silly questions.
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The Cats are still trying their best to keep humankind in the dark ages. Which may be a good thing. The more ridiculous they are the less young people of the future will be involved with them. I can see them becoming extinct as time passes.
ReplyDeleteRatzinger is getting increasingly old and frail, and one day he will die. For these reasons alone the Pontiff simply cannot be infallible.
ReplyDeleteYou should go and read @Pontifex's tweets from today, February 2, 2013. https://twitter.com/pontifex
ReplyDeleteSpelling and grammar errors = not infallible.
Much as I enjoy mocking my old faith none of the examples you have used are infallible pronouncements as far as the church is concerned.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the dogma, all papal pronouncements are infallible.
DeleteThe definition says he is infallible "when he speaks ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and doctor of all Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the universal Church".
ReplyDeleteThis is hardly 'all papal pronouncement'.
The AIDS comment you used is the most egregious misquote. He said "[AIDS is] ... a tragedy that cannot be overcome by money alone, that cannot be overcome through the distribution of condoms, which even aggravates the problems" He is utterly wrong of course and his suggestion for how to control AIDS by confining sex to married people is too stupid to argue with. But he in no way says AIDS is caused by using condoms. So that is hardly an infallible pronouncement because he didn't pronounce it.
And you will not find anyone [even the Pope himself] who believes that his comments in that interview constituted him defining a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the universal Church.
I don't expect you to post this reply but thanks for reading. I'm also happy to comment un-anonymously so you don't think I'm trolling. If you do post it please remove this para.
The actual quote, according to the BBC News, was "HIV/Aids is a tragedy that cannot be overcome through the distribution of condoms, which can even increase the problem."
DeleteI think that's a pretty clear indication that the Pope said Condoms can cause AIDS.
My actual quote was from the Telegraph's Rome correspondent http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/5005357/Pope-Benedict-XVI-condoms-make-Aids-crisis-worse.html so I guess the pope was speaking in german and we have two different interpretations of whatever word he used.
ReplyDeleteBut in either case I cannot see that he states that Condoms cause AIDS or that it was meant to be or is considered an infallible pronouncement.
Maybe I just don't understand satire as well as I thought.
It isn't the Church who creates these definitions. It boils down to whether you believe Jesus is who he says he his, namely God, or not. If he is God, then he is truth incarnate. Jesus established the Catholic church and Jesus gave the apostles the authority to safeguard his teaching throughout the centuries. Papal infallibility is simply the belief that Jesus entrusted his authority to the Church. The Pope has the authority to uphold the doctrine which was revealed to us by Jesus. The Pope does not create doctrine. Neither does papal infallibility mean that the pope in impeccable. The pope is human and is therefore capable of sin. However, we are guaranteed that when he speaks on matters of faith or morals his is assured to be speaking truly.
ReplyDelete>It boils down to whether you believe Jesus is who he says he his>
DeleteOf course, Jesus said he WASN'T god didn't he - if you believe the Bible that is (Mark 10:17-18; Luke 18:18-19).
And of course, we know that the Bible was (badly) edited and compiled from documents written long after Jesus supposedly lived and in which the authors had 'Jesus' saying and doing whatever suited their particular political agenda as various sects competed for members in the market place.
And we still have the records of the Vatican Council in which, according to the Catholic Encyclopaedia, this definition was created.
So the dogma is that the Pope is infallible because the Papacy had it written in a book that he was and then held a council which said what they had written was the word of God.
And from that transparently absurd dogma of defined and arbitrarily abrogated, untrammelled power and unaccountability, all the long litany of abuse of power by one of the most corrupt, amoral and inhumane organisations the world has ever seen, flows unabated.
As far as I remember from when I was into this stuff, the papal infallibility stunt has only ever been pulled twice - once for the virgin birth and once for the assumption of Mary (if not that then it was her immaculate conception, free from original sin). These items are regarded as dogma, whereas any other pronouncements are doctrine. Dogma is set and unchangeable, whereas doctrine may be changed e.g. on contraception (however unlikely!).
ReplyDeleteThe papal pronouncements which are alleged to be infallible are few in number. Immaculate Conception, etc. as noted above. These are supposedly "ex cathedra" and infallible.
ReplyDeleteWhile that poppycock probably makes little difference, as it is totally outside any current reality, the other papal statements and policies do matter an awful lot. So much so that people are contracting AIDS because of the catholic prohibition on the use of condoms.
The theory utilized by the church is that it is a violation of the natural law to interrupt or alter the act of procreation (intercourse) with any unnatural means, as the aim of such act is solely to conceive babies. This notion is so ridiculous it strikes me that it would carry little weight today. The natural law theory which defines the furtherance of god's will and plan for us was devised by Thomas Aquinas in the 11th Century. It became the scholastic philosophy and theology of the catholic church, and said church is so locked into continuing with this natural law concept as the ONLY explanation of morality that the pope makes these absurd pronouncements about the use of condoms. Same applies to use of birth control pills. The latter being a little less obnoxious than the condom ban.
Rosa,
ReplyDeleteThat link above doesn't work:-
'The Pontifical Decrees Against the Doctrine of The Earth’s Movement and the Ultramontane Defence of Them'
Thanks Colin. The link is now mended.
DeleteThe Barnacle Goose considered a fish isn't the only example of papal misunderstanding of biology. In this link, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurices , you can read about rabbits too being seen as a marine species, like fish and/or shellfish.
ReplyDeleteQUOTE #1) The term laurices refers to the fetus of the rabbit (Oryctolagus cuniculus) prepared without evisceration and consumed as a table delicacy.
QUOTE #2: The young [rabbits], either when cut from out of the body of the mother, or taken from the breast, without having the entrails removed, are considered a most delicate food; they are then called laurices.
QUOTE #3: It is said that Pope Gregory I authorized the consumption of laurices during Lent and other fasts, declaring them to be a marine species, like fish or shellfish. For this reason there was a great burgeoning of cuniculture in monasteries during the early Middle Ages. The demand would have been high, considering that the ecclesiastical calendar of the time specified more than 180 fast days which religionists had to observe. The economics of cuniculture are also thought well suited to the monastic setting.