Monday, 10 June 2013

Prove There Isn't A God!

Osiris, Anubis and Horus
Despite the fact that Atheists are continually explaining that Atheism is not a belief that there are no gods but a belief that there is no evidence for any and therefore no reason to believe in any, theists continue to try to shift the burden of proof from themselves and demand we prove their particular god doesn't exist.

This is of course the tactics of the playground and the coward and depends on the infantile idea that if you can't prove a notion wrong it must be right. Curiously, in the deluded mind of the theist which seems to be capable of abandoning intellectual honesty and personal integrity in it's desperate pursuit of certainty, this only applies to their favourite god and not to fairies, pink unicorns, Harry Potter, or invisible loft hippos.

So Christians, Muslims, Jews, Sikhs and anyone else who believes in one god but not all of them, if you want to show your intellectual honesty and personal integrity, this challenge should be right up your street. Just like us Atheists there are some gods you don't believe in. Presumably, since you think Atheists should be able to prove your god isn't real, you will be able to prove the gods you don't believe in aren't real. In all honesty, if you require Atheists to prove a negative, you should be capable of doing so yourself. To believe otherwise is hypocrisy, and I don't know of any religion which believes hypocrisy is a virtue.

Wodan heals Balder's wounded horse; Emil Doepler ca. 1905
You have very many gods to choose from. says there are almost 3000 goods which people have believed in either now or in known history. There are probably lots more we don't know about.

Since the beginning of recorded history, which is defined by the invention of writing by the Sumerians around 6000 years ago, historians have cataloged over 3700 supernatural beings, of which 2870 can be considered deities. Those numbers are probably a very conservative estimate because we have no accurate information before 4000 B.C. This means any deities worshipped by man before this period are unaccounted for.

Don't panic! You don't have to prove all of them don't exist. Just pick any one and prove to readers that it isn't real.

If you haven't read any history and can't think of any other gods, this link leads to all the gods you could wish for, but don't limit yourself to these. You could even make up one of your own!

We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.

Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
Just a word of warning though. Your opinions, faith, deeply-held beliefs, feelings in your 'heart', words in a book or the opinions of 'experts' don't count as evidence, nor does the fact that your parents believed in your favourite god. After all, you won't accept my opinions, my feelings, my books or the opinions of experts who agree with me, so play the game according to your rules. Produce the same evidence which proves your selected god doesn't exist that you would accept from me as proof that your god doesn't exist.

You don't believe in that god, just as I don't believe in yours, so provide the evidence you demand I should provide.

Anything else would be hypocritical.

I almost forgot: Don't try any of the fallacies listed here, or any others for that matter. They won't work on me and will only serve to expose your dishonesty.

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  1. Well put, I simply don't believe in a god that it, show some good evidence and I'd gladly expect it but there's none. And as for faith, just a word for the delusional to spout to prove their moral superiority.

  2. This is one of the best challenges I have ever seen. It makes people think and that is always a good thing. Keep these great ideas coming. I will be linking to this in the future.

  3. I think that it is pointless to indulge in the game of "I do not believe that a god exists" vs "I do believe that no god exists." Both meanings can be found in dictionaries, and are common enough to fixate on one vs. another.

    One should start with "Yes, it is possible that Thor exists so we agree." "Thor told me that Jesus does not, so that's proof right there."

    By this point either the Christian sees the folly of his silly argument or he moves on. Either way you save time.

  4. True proof of God's existence is found hidden within the Bible. But this has been completely ignored, rejected, or worse, for years on end.

    Go to and click on the flashing words "Watch / Listen". This takes you on a web page tour of such proof of God's existence, and does so via automatic web page scrolling along with complete audio coverage. It lasts about 10 minutes.

    For over 10 years this proof has been regarded as just another spamming attempt at work. The hilarious part is that these people came to such a conclusion without even having visited the website. And if I make a comment such as this one, the rejection occurs even faster.

    However, if a new disease was spreading like wildfire, and the cure was being posted at certain websites, these website would not be classified as just another spamming attempt at work.

    Thus man currently places himself above God.

    1. If you can prove your god exists and that no others do why have you so obviously failed to take the challenge I set you?

      Don't you believe what you claim?

  5. No one takes you seriously. You have run from Sacerdotus since last year and he has been rising in popularity. He now has his own radio program while you're here posting nonsense, ad hominem and lies about creationists. I challenge you to debate him on his radio program chicken. I'm sure in your insanity you will comment that I am him. Spare us the distractions and debate him - put your atheism to the test if you're so confident with it. It is obvious you are afraid.

    1. Hello again Manuel.

      Still making excuses for not taking this simple challenge, eh?

      I see you're still using the old trick of using a Twitter account to make it look like it's not you. Isn't it time you came up with a less infantile ploy?

    2. By the way, the account of your hilarious disintegration when challenged can still be enjoyed here: Debate: Is There Scientific Evidence Only For The Christian God? 7,000 people have now laughed their way through it.

  6. Well said. I've posed the same issue in the past. If everyone has to accept the Christian God because it can't be disproved, then by the same logic all the multitudes of other Gods exist by default.

  7. If someone asks me to prove god doesn't exist I tell them:

    I'm proof he does exist.

    I am god.

    Prove I'm not.

    That really ties them in knots.

  8. : Your comment will be visible after approval.

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no!

    EITHER use the captcha system OR approve all messages BUT don't do both!

    That's just rude.

    1. I wish I could resume allowing anonymous comments but the reasons I stopped are clearly stated above the comment box. I got bored with having to delete so many of Manuel de Dios Agosto's (aka @Sacerdotus) infantile, abusive and threatening comments every day.

      If Christians could be more civilised and polite then it might be possible to resume it.


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